When you do this reliance, you are only preaching you own cause not God. You only need to ask the Holy Spirit from God to convey the truth and nothing more.
Two to worship... God and the special, extraordinary Man. I can't find the bible verse for this.
Jesus said
Matt 4:10
10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
(KJV)
Then Paul said
Phil 2:10
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
(KJV)
Which Holy Spirit is it, and which revelation?
One speaks of worshiping the Father, and the other worshiping a special man. Would God really allow it? It seem to contradict with each other
Actually the truth about it is this, Jesus said to worship God the Father while he is in the form of man(to his disciples, separating himself and lifting the Father[giving glory]but not nullifying/preventing all men[EtAdam to worship Him]) ; and to Satan, worship God(the Godhead[both Father and Son]),Mk1:24,25;5:6-13
And Paul to worship the Son of God(which the Father has given authority over Heaven and Earth[the mediator between men]being a God and experiencing being a servant, he is better equipped to plead for us unto his Father,1Ti2:5;never a man pleading for man to God,1S2:25; 1Co15:27 God the Father would never give his glory[let me rephrase this so you would understand better...The Father will not give glory(DIVINE HOLINESS/LIKENESS)to any man]except to his Unique Son, Mt3:17Mk1:11Lk3:22Jn16:14
The Iglesia Ni Cristo Ni Manalo are worshiping The Father(Potter,Is64:8)and The Special Man(Newly Made Vessel,Jr18:4) Being deceived by their pastors, there is no hope for them. For the vessel is never worship but God only.
The distinction of God the
Father made for his son from mankind (other flesh)
being
in the form of God, ---- but made
Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, ----the likeness of men-------- found in
appearance as a man, Philippians 2:6-8 The Scripture describe The Christ
like this, and never other man, why is that.
This people keeps forgetting the distinction God made, and
the distinction Jesus made between him I the flesh and his Father(God ina Spirit).Careful, oftentimes these groups
makes the scriptures out of context, and introducing their own interpretation
not understand the entire biblical expression and purpose.
Finally,a purposeless revelation from God through the Holy
Spirit by the biblical writer John. By the way, God made Moses into a god unto
Pharaoh, so does the Israelites leaders in the wilderness.The problem of Unitarians is they never learn
about how God made distinction.
God
will send his Son descended of the line of David(fulfilling prophesy that the
throne of David shall continue). by mentioning flesh here remove the birth of Christ
from the natural process, but also incorporate himself as a son/seed of David. Strengthening
the pre-existence. The problem of Unitarians is God being Omnipotent if He
choose to be.
Remember when Jesus speaks that
the Father is the true God, He is in the form of Man(1Jn4:3denoting distinction
from God).Christ speaks as a man glorifies the Father(Jn17:6)Remember Jesus
speaks himself as part of the Godhead by the term Son Of God, and incorporate
into Mankind(fellowman)by the term Son of Man .And remember that no man can
speak for man to God(1S2:25)
There are many presumptions spoken. The Father and the Son
is one and the same in one thing, both are divine beings,more so of purpose to bring
salvation from sin. The whole story is on Jn10:30-36the Jews understand what
Jesus is saying, and truly a blasphemy, if he is not telling the truth. When
people add unto the scriptures, some turning it too literal, many are deceive. We
are one with the Lord , obedient to the Father.
Foreknown(Jr1:5) and Predestine(Eph1:4) are two
different thing. The Son of God pre-existence is in spirit not corporeal/flesh(Jb30:4Pr8:30)
The flesh of Christ is prepared when he is born out of a woman(Ga4:4)
*Peter(Jn1:35-42)a little/small rock/stone/pebbleYeshua(Ac4:10,11)is the head of the
corner, the Spiritual Rock(1Co10:4)
He is called
Alpha in receiving the first glorified/purified body, among his fellowman. He
is called Omega, His Father gave his authority to judge the world. The father
would never give this task to any spiritual angel nor one lower than the angel,
that is man. Or else Father becomes bias lifting one man, becoming his
favorite, becoming unjust to other man. The Alpha and Omega title always goes
together, implying divinity, Every human beings can say that he is the alpha
and omega but this means nothing
That God is not
Omnipotent is in question here or the fear of Gods(1S4:8){composite Unity[the
Godhead]}
Does The
Father(Most High)has no ability to procreate like Allah(Sural112:2,3).If He
needs or wants to have a son, can or can’t he do it
Study Iglesia If this is true, God intended or did not prevent you from sinning first and then he will give you a savior.Wow, how kind of him MV:it was very good,Ge1:31 Torah1Yr:Ge3:22-4:7
Readme They are still thinking Trinitarianism. There is always a difference between the Father and the Son of God. MV:Father...Son,Mt11:27 Torah1Yr:Ge3:1-25
Readme Now the next questions would be Are they members of the church of christ? Do they worship Christ? Are they Jews or Gentiles MV:divisions among you,1Co11:18 Torah1Yr:Ge2:8-25
Study Iglesia When Apostle Paul called the Gentile
Christians as “church of God” in Galatians 1:13; I Corinthians
10:32, and II Thessalonians 1:4, it was to emphasize among the
Gentile converts.
Remember that the Gentiles, prior to
their conversion in Christianity, were pagans who used to be
“carried away from these dumb idols” (I Cor, 12:2, NKJV). They did
not have the right to worship or deify the true God then and, hence,
were described in that earlier state as “without hope and without
God” (Eph. 2:11-12, Today’s English Version). But when they received
the gospel and became members of Christ’s Church, the Gentiles were
already recognized by God as His people (Rom. 9:24-26, NKJV) who belonged to the Church of Christ
(Rom.
16:4, 16).
Thus, by addressing them as “church
of God,” Apostle
Paul wanted the Gentiles to realize that they no longer belong to
the worship of dumb idols, but to the Almighty God. Moreover, in
using the designation “church
of God” for the members of
the Church
of Christ,
Apostle Paul was merely emphasizing that those who are of Christ are
also of God.
The question here is why in their missionary would they call the newly converts church of God, or is it only Paul in those days? How about now? How long would they or Paul calls them church of God before calling them church of Christ?
MisteratMiss Readme So, it is not suitable to call “Church of the
gentiles” the Jews that is a member of the church.
In the new testament, and mostly are written by apostle
Paul, many times what they call the Church of Christ “church of god”. (I
cor. 1:2. 11:22, 15:9; II cor. 1:1; gal. 1:13;I tim. 3:5, 15) we must notice the times were apostle
Paul use the term “church of god”, he always refers it to the
gentiles that is a member in the Church of Christ Did You Notice This Jewish members--Church of Christ Gentile members--Church of God Now that is some separation. I recall The Paul confronts Peter(Ga2) At that time,People(Nations)are called Jews and Gentiles(Ro3:9) also Jews,Gentiles(Non-members)and the Church of God(1Co10:32) also Jews and Greeks(World Superpower),1Co1:23 How about now? So that question is , are all the members Jews(Church of Christ)and Gentiles(Church of God)? Are you a Jew or a Gentile,which it is today? Maybe Church of God within Church of Christ?after all gentiles are grafted into the branch? Are your Pastors or you yourself/ves or your god fooling the members? MV:churches of Christ,Ro16:16 Torah1Yr:Ge2:1-3
Study Iglesia It sounds convincing and simple, right?But the mere fact that the Holy Spirit is mentioned here, it is clearly a sign from God the Father making a distinction. The Holy Spirit is the agent power that the Godhead(Father and Son)use to govern the process,mechanics etc. of the universe and all his creative works including birth. To mention(make you notice)the Holy Spirit here simply imply beyond the natural motion.Always remember no Etadam(Hebrew for mankind),no matter how blessed,or guided by the Spirit of God can save your soul. If it cannot be done by the death of an animal(during Adam's fall)nor by its blood(continuous animal sacrifice)or human sacrifice(Molech,Baal,etc) neither can it be done by extraordinary,special man.
Romans 8:3-7King James Version (KJV)
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So The question is how can Christ be a man?
John 2:23-25
King James Version (KJV)
23 Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did. 24 But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men, 25 And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.
This verse itself testify that Christ(if he is a man)knows what man(including himself)is,which is Romans 3:4
God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
but wait there's more
Psalm 116:11
King James Version (KJV)
11 I said in my haste, All men are liars. what can man give unto the Lord God
Psalm 116:11-12
King James Version (KJV)
11 I said in my haste, All men are liars. 12 What shall I render unto the Lord for all his benefits toward me? there is no guarantee of goodness and truth,if your just going to give every man a chance/wait for him to speak the truth But God sends his own son,because his son is capable of glorifying him, and to testify about the father that no man, special or not can do. Try beating that! Christ reaction towards the applauses of men as fake, because isn't that what we do to each other? if we want to please we say nice things but if we are angered, we cursed all men! OF MEN
John 8:13-19
King James Version (KJV)
13 The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true. Of THE SON OF MAN 14 Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go. 15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man. 16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me. 17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. 18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. 19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.
Actually that in not what the Bible says. Christ is not the builder of the church literally but he gathers his brethren first(Lk13:34)and then the Gentiles (Jn11:52Lk11:23Ac1:8). Yeshua saves his Church(because it is He who brings them as a Shepherd/High Priest)by the shedding of his blood(That is why together in one fold are called Churches of Chist). He will deliver his Church/kingdom to God the Father(1Co15:24)because He is his Head(1Co11:3) Christ is the Spiritual Rock(1Co10:4)the cornerstone(Mt21:42)upon the church of God is built(Mt16:15-18) MV:The Lord...the watchman,Ps127:1 Torah1Yr:Ge1:20-25
Study Iglesia The answer really is confusing.First why connect the creation of Adam and Eve to Christ. That is why the Bible makes distinction, Hebrew Etadam(Mankind,which excludes Christ),and the prepare body for Christ use.Christ has a title called the Son of Man,in which Ezekiel and Daniel are both called.By this title Yeshua incorporates himself to his fellowman. MV:He came to his own,Jn1:11 Torah1Yr:Ge1:14-19
Study Iglesia actually the Son of man here is King David established by God upon the throne to be king over his people. Concerning Jesus is in heaven, Does that mean when man a dies he is already in heaven,after he is judge. Is Jesus with Moses,Elijah,Enoch, and the rests of the saints of God.Does God play favoritism, raise one man, and giving him more importance than the rest,is your Creator that bias.Even if Jesus has a glorious body,that will happen when we are all judged upon the resurrection. They are still ministering questions and removing themselves from the biblical precepts and teachings MV:respecter of persons,Ac10:34 Torah1Yr:Ge1:6-13
Study the Iglesia The INC members and ministers always thinks of trinity or some doctrines of it when it comes to the nature of Jesus,and keeps forgetting what is "man". When they speak of God, it is the Father,which they rarely explain. God the Father creating a special man,I guess others are not special. But we know that we are all special in the eyes of God,they are also schools for special children(the proper terms is they are different).By making a man sinless,they made God bias or a partial creator. If God can prevent,encourage,protect every man from sinning should He not made all of them. Is there such a thing as worshiping a man? Of course, Egyptian PharaohPart2 Part3 see the silamirities Truth Be Told=In their Pasugo Magazine,Christ needed salvation.How can the christ be without sin if he still need salvation? What is salvation for? Now see how they contradict themselves and the Bible. Now what does the Bible say: God's Glory,Is42:8;48:11 God and Man,Ro3:4Jb4:18,19 Man,Jr17:5 Jesus,1Jn4:3 No matter how special Christ would be as long as he is a Human being ,everything spoken about/concerning man will be applied to him, for he is dust,of the ground,clay formed by God,Ro3:23Ja2:4Mal2:4 MV:minister questions,1Ti1:4 Torah1Yr: Ge1:3-5
George M.Lamsa Lamsa Bible ,The Lamsa Bible (LB) is
supposed to be a translation of the Syriac Pershitta (SP).
The SP is fourth century, Aramaic translation of the Hebrew (OT)
and Greek (NT) Scriptures. So, at best, what you are getting with
the LB is a translation of a translation. As such, it would not
be as accurate as a direct translation from the original
languages. Yes, Jesus probably did speak
Aramaic, at least most of the time. He probably also spoke Greek
and possibly even Latin. But God chose to have the original
manuscripts of the NT written in Greek. So it is those words that
are considered "God-breathed." Again, the SP took the Greek
text and translated it into Aramaic. In doing so, there is no
guarantee whatsoever that it arrived at the words Jesus actually
spoke. Anytime a language is translated into another language,
then translated back again, something is "lost." And
then to translate it into a third language (in this case English)
only exaggerates the problem. Gary Zeolla As we are reading these sites, what is clearly written is
Kung CHURCH OF CHRIST daw ang nakalagay dapat daw ay:
“εκκλησιαν του χριστου” o “EKKLĒSIAN TOU KRISTOU”
Sapagkat ang nakalagay nga naman sa Bibliang Greek na ito ay:
“εκκλησιαν του θεου” o“EKKLĒSIAN TOU THEOU”
Na sa English ay “CHURCH OF GOD”, Kaya ang INC daw ay nagbabatay sa isang MALING SALIN ng Gawa 20:28.
Ang hindi alam ng marami, sa wikang Griego ang Gawa 20:28, ay mayroon pang isang version, na ganito naman ang nakalagay:
Dito sa Bibliang ito imbes na “IGLESIA NG DIYOS” na sa Greek nga ay:
“εκκλησιαν του θεου” o“EKKLĒSIAN TOU THEOU”
Ang nakalagay dito ay:
“ἐκκλησίαν τοῦ κυρίου” o “EKKLĒSIAN TOU KURIOU”
O sa English “CHURCH OF THE LORD” na siya namang pinagbatayan ng Bibliang ito:
Acts 20:28“Take
heed unto yourselves, and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit
hath made you bishops, to feed the CHURCH OF THE LORD which he purchased
with his own blood.” [American Standard Version] The point of argument here is this, we shall neither assume,presume or invent beyond what is written as the bible has said,Dt4:2Pr30:4;1Co4:6 If The Lamsa is the Scripture, shouldn't it be used all the time.And yet as I watch the Iglesia ni Kristo programs they always returning to the Hebrew, Greek and some Aramaic. Some of the words in the bible are Aramaic,like Abba. So maybe the word "church of Christ"is Aramaic? Is there any evidence about this? Because the INC uses this verse to prove themselves and not the entire Lamsa Version.A new doctrine is again seen. Seeking and choosing the verse that benefits them but not by the authority of God(Bible)
We are right to conclude that the Iglesia Ni Kristo Ni Mr.Felix Y. Manalo is worshipping the Unknown God(as mentioned before)and most importantly they are not part of his church.
There is a verse that says whether in pretense or in truth Christ is preached, but even this verse is not applicable to them
We shall see further how assumptions, inventions, presumptions are easily destroyed by the word of God
The Bible did not fall from
heaven as a book. And this Bible we have today DID NOT COME from
other churches, not even the Iglesia ni Cristo. Whether they like
it or not, the BIBLE was made possible through the AUTHORITY of the
CHURCH. And this CHURCH is NOT the Iglesia ni Cristo of Manalo but the
CHURCH founded by CHRIST-- the ONLY-- ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH of
CHRIST.
In 382
AD, the CHURCH (not the Iglesia ni Cristo) through the leadership of
Pope
Damasus, a saintly pope.
Catholic BIBLE SCHOLARS convened
and DECIDED which BOOKS should be part of the present Bible we have today. But
the FINAL CANON
of the SCRIPTURES was FINALIZED only during the COUNCIL of
TRENT in the 16th Century (Read also SCRIPTURE TRANSLATIONS!)
Ang kapal naman ng mga mukha nila
kung bababuyin lang nila ang Aklat na HINDI SA KANILA!
If they do, they would CHANGE words such as "church
of GOD" to "church
of Christ" to suit their
teachings.
Biblically speaking their paid MINISTERS are intellectually INCOMPETENT and so
they've GOT NO RIGHT to do so. Whether they like it or not, history of the BIBLE
PRODUCTION, the CHURCH has played an active role ever since.
The Bible Societies DO NOT even recognize their own paid ministers to have that
SINCERITY, HONESTY and COMPETENCY to be called "Scholars" in that
respect. They do not have that LOVE of the SCRIPTURES but rather, they
look at the Bible as their SERVANT!
In truth, the INC of Manalo are
HELPLESS. They are STILL HEAVILY RELYING on CATHOLIC and PROTESTANT
versions of the Bible whom Manalo and his successors CONSIDER apostates!
YES, they LITERALLY RELY on
BIBLES from APOSTATES!!!! That is one among the many HYPOCRISIES in the Iglesia
ni Cristo of Manalo.
So, now that you know why they can't publish their own Bibles, you better have
to think twice why believe it's the 'true" church when they've got nothing
in history to prove that!
MV:Church of the living God,1Ti3:15 Torah1Yr:Ge1:1,2