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Thursday, December 13, 2012

To Redefine Everything



And make way for you loopholes


MV:trouble and darkness,Is8:2
Bib1Yr: Re4Come Up


Trinitarianism, Binitarianism, Unitarianism - Which?


http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/archives/2005/michael-servetus-the-errors-of-the-trinity/


On the issue of trinity,I am not Unitarian

A few excerpts from The Errors of the Trinity, which caused such violent actions, follows. Servetus writes:



The philosophers have invented a third separate being truly and really distinct from the other two, which they have called the third Person, or the Holy Spirit, and thus they have contrived an imaginary Trinity, three beings in one nature. But in reality three Gods, or one threefold God, are foisted upon us under the pretence, and in the name of Unity…For with them it is very easy, taking the words in their strict sense, for three beings to exist, which they say and yet strictly, simply, and really, so different or distinct yet one is born of another, and yet all these three are shut up in one jar. Since I am unwilling to mis-use the word Persons, I shall call them the first being, the second being and the third being, for in the Scripture I find no other name for them…Admitting thefore these three, which after their fashion they call Persons, they freely admit a plurality of beings, a plurality of entities, a plurality of Essences, a plurality of substances, and taking the word of God strictly, they will have a plurality of Gods.


If this is so, then why the Tritorites are blamed, who say that there are three Gods, for they also contrive three Gods or one threefold one. These threefold Gods of theirs form one composite substance. And although some will not use the word implying that these three have been put together, yet they do use a word that they are constituted together and that God is constituted out of three beings. It is clear therefore that they are Tritories and we have a threefold God. We have become Atheists, man without any God. For as soon as we try to think about God, we are turned aside to three phantoms, so that no kind of unity remains in our conception. What else is being without God but being unable to think about God, when there is always present to our understanding a haunting kind of confusion of three beings, by which we are forever deluded into supposing that we are thinking about God…They seem to be living in another world when they dream of such things for the kingdom of heavens knows none of this nonsense and it is in another way unknown to them, that Scripture speaks of the Holy Spirit.


How much this tradition of Trinity has alas, alas! been the laughing stock of Mohammedons only God knows. The Jews also shrink from giving adherence to this fancy of ours, and laugh at our foolishness about the Trinity, and on account of its blasphemies, they do not believe that this is the Messiah promised in their Law. And not only the Mohammedons and the Hebrews, but the very beasts of the field, would make fun of us, did they grasp our fantastic notion, for all the workers of the Lord bless the One God…This most burning plague, therefore, was added and superimposed, as it were, on the new gods which have recently come, which our fathers did not worship. And this plague of philosophy was brought upon us by the Greeks, for they above all men are most given to philosophy; and we, hanging upon their lips, have become philosophers, and they never understood the passages of the Scriptures which they adduced with regard to this matter.

Servetus also stressed what he believed to be the true nature of Jesus:

Some are scandalised at my calling Christ the prophet, because they happen not themselves to apply to him the epithet, they fancy that all who do so are chargeable with Judaism and Mohametism, regardless of the fact that the Scriptures and ancient writers call him the prophet.




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The Trinity

In this case, The author mentions Elohim as plural,

Still Can't prove "MORE THAN TWO"

The Plurality of Elohim proves more than one always   Ge1:1


John 1:1King James Version



1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

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Worship God the Father by Praying to him, Matthew 6

Worship Yeshua The Son of God Link

Pray In the Spirit,Ro8:26Eph6:18Jd1:20  Link


The  ??? are 

how do you define and understand worship?

do you worship ?Divine Beings or nature of  Divine Beings?

When we praise Somebody(like how excellent are his work), Does that mean always worship?

Do you worship Because of opinions?

Careful or you might end up one of those liars who keeps adding.Dt4:2Pr30:5,6

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