Debating

                                     






        

Islam,Judaism and Christianity Conversation



Why not debate.

 Debating is a good tool for you to find out the truth, if that’s what you are really seeking of

MV: dark…light,Jr13:16

Mini Debates

Macro Debates

Bib1Yr: 1Jn1Eyes Have Seen

.......................................Gravity

It is a part of the universe interacting on every side that God created


How did gravity form God put it there so we wouldn't fly out into space. Very thoughtful wasn't He.



The notion of a god putting gravity on Earth 'for us' is a very old fashioned one. It shows no understanding of gravity at all, nor of science. 

It shows simply the narcissistic, 'humans are the best' filler that filled the space of no knowledge that existed in man before the advent of scientific reasoning.

Science has not uncovered evidence for this original unsubstantiated thought of 'for us' about anything. And the more science fails to find a 'for us' in anything, the more we logically conclude that there is increasingly an unlikeliness of a 'for us' existing.

Therefore we head, logically, for another thought, the anthropic principle which states, we can exist because of the way things were prior to our existence, not the 'for us' that we can exist because it was so.

Evidentially it apparently wasn't made just so. But of course, naturally, we could exist if it just was anyway.

Another Answer
Gravity doesn't 'form' as blades of grass do not 'form' or light doesn't form. Blades of grass simply grow and light is an emanation of energy as electrons lost their energy flying to lower energy states.

In the case of gravity, it is a property of the Universe. Gravity is the result (notice, not the 'formation') of the existence of masses (like planets, which do form, from accumulations of meteors) or small atoms and molecules (which form from the attraction of various particles and influences by certain forces so severly abstruse that quantum physicists are the only people adept at handling them).

Mass folds spacetime (the fabric of the Universe) around itself. Imagine stretching a taut tablecloth out. This may represent flat spacetime. Now add a mass like a peach or enormous soccer ball. There is now a dent in your table cloth as you hold it up. This is an approximate analogy of how matter dents (folds) spacetime. Orbiting objects on your tablecloth, given enough speed, would skim around the edge of the dent around the soccer ball, which represents say a star or planet, and the orbiting objects (may use spherical raisins for this) are representative of planets or moons.

There is another theory that gravity, in addition to folding spacetime by general relativity, is a manifestation of the transfer of gravitons between masses.

Gravitons would have to be massless, to travel long distances (long distances are very abundant in gravitation- the sun's gravity, weak though gravity is as a force, can be felt theoretically as far away as the hypothetical, yet probable Oort cloud). They would emerge by a star for example and shoot off to a planet, exerting an attractive force somehow. They would be able to disobey Pauli and his exclusion principle, building up a massive (think what massive means in the case of something as weak as gravity) force between these two objects.

Gravitons have been elusive enough to not yet be detected, but they are hypothesised on logical grounds. Afterall, many other forces have been shown to arise from the interaction of forces emerging from fundamental particles. 

Still, there is the established theory of General Relativity (curling and folding of spacetime around masses) by Mr. Albert Einstein who was born of the 14th of March.

Dark energy
dark energy is a hypothetical form of energy that permeates all of space and tends to increase the rate of expansion of the universe.

Dark Matter
In astronomy and cosmology, dark matter is matter that is inferred to exist from gravitational effects on visible matter and background radiation, but is undetectable by emitted or scattered electromagnetic radiation.[1] Its existence was hypothesized to account for discrepancies between measurements of the mass of galaxies, clusters of galaxies and the entire universe made through dynamical and general relativistic means, and measurements based on the mass of the visible "luminous" matter these objects contain: stars and the gas and dust of the interstellar and intergalactic medium. It is probably cold and if so, probably weakly interacting massive particles[2][3] or many primordial intermediate mass black holes between 30 and 300,000 solar masses,[4][5] or both.

Dark Fluid

In astronomy and cosmology, Dark Fluid is an alternative theory to both Dark Matter and Dark Energy and attempts to explain both phenomena in a single framework.[1]
Dark Fluid proposes that Dark Matter and Dark Energy are not separate physical phenomena as previously thought, nor do they have separate origins, but that they are linked together and are really specific sub-effects of new extended laws of gravity at very large scales. Other alternative theories of extended gravity, such as MOND(In physics, Modified Newtonian dynamics (MOND) is a hypothesis that proposes a modification of Newton's law of gravity to explain the galaxy rotation problem. When the uniform velocity of rotation of galaxies was first observed, it was unexpected because Newtonian theory of gravity predicts that objects that are farther out will have lower velocities. For example, planets in the Solar System orbit with velocities that decrease as their distance from the Sun increases.
MOND was proposed by Mordehai Milgrom in 1983 as a way to model this observed uniform velocity data.[1][2] Milgrom noted that Newton's law for gravitational force has been verified only where gravitational acceleration is large, and suggested that for extremely low accelerations the theory may not hold. MOND theory posits that acceleration is not linearly proportional to force at low values.
MOND stands in contrast to the more widely accepted theory of dark matter. Dark matter theory suggests that each galaxy contains a halo of an as yet unidentified type of matter that provides an overall mass distribution different from the observed distribution of normal matter. This dark matter accounts for the uniform rotation velocity data without modifying Newton's law of gravity.
), also show up as specific sub-effects. Our current laws of gravity modeled on observations within the scales of the Earth and the Solar System might be insufficient to explain gravity at these larger scales.


MV:Jb38:33


Left Behind

Matthew 24:40


“Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.”

so shall also the coming of the Son of man


THAT IS IN REFERENCE TO THE START OF HIS JUDGMENT


WHICH ONES SHALL BE TAKEN TO THE KINGDOM OF GOD AND WHICH ONES TO BE THROWN IN HELL

LEARN THE PARABLE OF THE FIG TREE

THAT IS YOUR TIME REMAINS BEFORE  WINTER

TO GATHER THE CHURCH OF GOD FROM ONE END OF HEAVEN TO THE OTHER

BE  YE WATCHFUL!!!